Tuesday, October 15, 2013

Some Interesting Comments Re Consecration Of Russia



.... comments to Pope Francis talks about danger of secular culture to faith during consecration of world to Immaculate Heart of Mary


    • Michael Petek
      Secular culture is the very source of abortion, sodomy, etc.
      Lest we obsess about the consecration of Russia, this was requested for the purpose of preventing the Second World War and the consequent extermination of the Jews. What mother would hear her children cry to her for help and refuse to come to their aid unless and until she was given what she wants when she wants it and her way?
      Now, let’s see what Our Lady does.
      In overshadowing Mary at the moment of the Incarnation, and again as she stood at the foot of the Cross, God asserted His exclusive claim of liberty to dispose at will of the beginning and the end of human life in the Person of the New Adam.
      This is the significance of the relationship in the OT of the glory of God (His corporeal manifestation) reposing over the mercy seat on top of the Ark. It prefigures the power of God overshadowing Mary at the Incarnation and again on Calvary, and it provides the reason for the death of the High Priest (Leviticus 16:1-2).
    • Michael B Rooke
      @editorCT
      The reality is that the Church did consecrate Russia to Our Blessed Lady.
      The Fatima document in the Church makes clear.
      http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20000626_message-fatima_en.html
      “Behold, as we stand before you, Mother of Christ, before your Immaculate Heart, we desire, together with the whole Church, to unite ourselves with the consecration which, for love of us, your Son made of himself to the Father: ‘For their sake’, he said, ‘I consecrate myself that they also may be consecrated in the truth’ (Jn 17:19). We wish to unite ourselves with our Redeemer in this his consecration for the world and for the human race, which, in his divine Heart, has the power to obtain pardon and to secure reparation.
      The power of this consecration lasts for all time and embraces all individuals, peoples and nations. It overcomes every evil that the spirit of darkness is able to awaken, and has in fact awakened in our times, in the heart of man and in his history. ..”
      Look at the consequences. The fall of the Soviet Union.
      Here is a list of Cathedrals in Russia
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cathedrals_in_Russia
      Some former churches were turned into museums.
      Here is one and note the comment on atheism.
      The cathedral was named after the “miracle-making” icon of Our Lady of Kazan, which the church housed till the early 1930s. The Bolsheviks closed the cathedral for services in 1929, and from 1932 it housed the collections of the Museum of the History of Religion and Atheism, which displayed numerous pieces of religious art and served anti-religious propaganda purposes. A couple of years ago regular services were resumed in the cathedral, though it still shares the premises with the museum, from whose name the word “atheism” has now been omitted.
      http://www.saint-petersburg.com/virtual-tour/kazan-cathedral/
      How that contrasts with Britain now under the atheist cosh.
      In 2011 Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin was personally present at a St. Petersburg airport on October 20 to receive an Orthodox relic of the Virgin Mary from Greek monks bringing it from the Vatoped Monastery on Mount Athos.
      SAINT PETERSBURG, October 26, 2011 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin was personally present at a St. Petersburg airport on October 20 to receive an Orthodox relic of the Virgin Mary from Greek monks bringing it from the Vatoped Monastery on Mount Athos.
      The relic, which is believed to be a belt worn by Mary, the mother of Jesus, is also believed to be associated with miraculous restorations of fertility.
      http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/vladimir-putin-receives-virgin-mary-fertility-relic-as-russia-fights-aborti/
  • Bham Catholic
    To EditorCT: it’s absolutely ridiculous to think that “the world” does not INCLUDE Russia. Sr. Lucia herself said that Pope John Paul II’s consecration of the world to Mary did fulfill of Our Lady. But you and others like you can’t let it go and accept it. You speak of “humility”: obviously you think you’re holier than the Pope. Maybe you should look to your own faults first before you feel fit to criticize our Holy Fathers.
  • cathmom
    If the consecration on the world performed by Pope John Paul II met Our Lady’s request for the consecration of Russia, then where is the peace she promised the world?
  • MamaR
    Read “Fatima for Today.” It will answer many of these questions and you will find peace.
  • sTEPHEN POVERELLO
    I am quite disappointed by the Consecration of the World wording of today, to same it was lame is an understatement. our parish did a consecration which was a whole lot fuller and specific than this vague one used by the pope.
  • Amanda Peter
    Good for Pope Francis for consecrating the whole world to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. Russia is well on her way to being healed it was Russia that stopped the bombing of Syria. It is Russia that dies not allow the homosexual agenda. It is Russia that speaks up for Christians persecuted in Muslim countries. The rest of the world now needs the consecration too as satan manifests his extra ordinary power over so many nations and peoples. Next time you offer to the Father the eternal sacrifice of the Son in the Holy Mass, offer for every soul in purgatory and every person on planet earth. The sum is still finite, the Sacrifice is infinite. We need to get clever in the economy of salvation !
  • Joseph Matthew
    The homily of Pope Francis was solid. Really good material for us to reflect on.
  • Mary Mwangi
    Praise Jesus,Mary and st.Joseph. I am from third world. We
    Are not so poor.God loves us too. Happy for the respect given
    To our lord by receiving on the tongue. At least in heaven there will
    Be no third and first world.
  • Please excuse my being so obtuse but would someone kindly explain what “consecrating” a country or the world to our Lady’s Immaculate Heart actually means.
    • Michael Petek
      It means that a nation – or the world – is set apart for the holy service of the Mother of God. It means that she intercedes with her Divine Son for that nation by name, so that for her sake He represses the evil spirits which infest and dominate that nation. (Genesis 3:15).
  • russian girl
    My great grandfather is russian and lived through the revolution. I’ve also spent much time in the post Soviet bloc and in Russia. The soviets successfully extinguished all of the catholicsin russia by the mid 1930s. By the time the militia of atheism reached Vladivostok there were 6000 catholics there.but the killed them all and buried them in a mass grave. Ever since communism fell,thanks to JP2, catholic missionaries have come to.Russia rebuilding the Catholic church.there… Putin is more.prolife than Obama now, so.there are good fruits. There is so much bad information floating around about these.things that inspired hatred and anger toward the popes. We should love the pope like he is a.member of our family. Pray for him instead of inspring division and animosity towars him, especially since.these things are all so.mysterious.
  • Michael B Rooke
    Note also
    Russians launch dedicated center to fight ‘atheist extremism’
    A group of activists connected with the Russian Orthodox Church are setting up a center against atheist extremism which, according to them, is promoted mainly by foreign-sponsored organizations.
    The decision was announced this week at a meeting between city residents and deputies of a district council that was held near the pilgrimage center of the Moscow Patriarchate, in south-west Moscow.
    “The atheist extremism is currently rearing its head. It is sponsored by various funds and NGOs with roots outside Russian borders,” reads the first statement released by the new movement.
    The group claims that their enemies are opposing citizens’ lawful right for freedom of thought, conscience and religion, guaranteed by the Constitution.
    In particular, the activists listed incidents when certain people protested against the construction of new churches, “creating an artificial psychosis and pumping up hysteria by intimidating the public”, quoting non-existent laws and declaring all public discussions unlawful.
    The statement emphasized the fact that atheist extremists were often acting on behalf of local residents by creating grassroots groups, but the real masterminds preferred to remain in the dark.
    The Moscow City authorities together with the Russian Orthodox Church are currently implementing the so called “Program-200” – a plan according to which 200 Orthodox churches must be erected throughout the capital in the next 10 to 15 years. Russian mass media estimated the overall budget of the program at about $1 billion and financing comes from a non-government fund. The authors of the program claimed that after it is implemented there will be a church for every 20,000 residents located 1 kilometer or less from residential areas.
    http://rt.com/politics/atheist-extremism-russia-fight-789/

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